tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post162054024499978965..comments2023-10-15T10:39:20.908-04:00Comments on One Frum Skeptic: Picky?frumskeptichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-87477031371927356142009-05-22T11:30:01.242-04:002009-05-22T11:30:01.242-04:00"Even if he became a pulpit rabbi, I think the rol..."Even if he became a pulpit rabbi, I think the role of rebbetzin is only demanding in out of town small communities"<br /><br />Heh. I'd like to hear what the rebbetzins have to say about that.<br />Besides where do you think new rabbis end up? They're more likely to start out somewhere between Atlanta and Dallas or between Des Moines and Pittsburgh, than between Manhattan and Long Island.<br /><br />Ichabod ChrainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-22562249884091852202009-05-20T00:34:25.482-04:002009-05-20T00:34:25.482-04:00yungerbum[space]
Hee hee hee.
Mark<I>yungerbum</I>[space]<br /><br />Hee hee hee.<br /><br />MarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-12240958899098037672009-05-15T14:05:00.000-04:002009-05-15T14:05:00.000-04:00I say that whoever is stupid enough to have the sh...I say that whoever is stupid enough to have the shadchan tell them what they want, or use a professional shadchan period, or have their mommy pick out their wife/husband for them, deserves what they get.<br /><br />IC, I think it was more about the current view, in contradiction of gemora, that a rabbi wastes time from learning. Even if he became a pulpit rabbi, I think the role of rebbetzin is only demanding in out of town small communities.Ookamikunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145237927656807738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-17522888324590830642009-05-14T17:04:00.000-04:002009-05-14T17:04:00.000-04:00Ultimately people are responsible for their action...Ultimately people are responsible for their actions, but you have to take their youth and brainwashing into account. <br /><br />How much can you expect from HS girls who are taught "We can, we can, we can support our men"? And they are restricted from access to all other information. So, they do not know that they have a choice. <br /><br />I do blame these schools/yeshivas. And I blame them for high divorce rate, too. These girls (and boys) don't know that they have a choice, they are pushed into marriage without knowing what they want in a spouse. Or they have an inkling of what they want but they can't see it in their dates, because they are not allowed to be frank. They have to act a certain way to land a spouse.mlevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831542484906424230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-33982524583319051542009-05-14T16:41:00.000-04:002009-05-14T16:41:00.000-04:00mlevin - God has His hand in it no matter what. .....mlevin - God has His hand in it no matter what. ...you've never heard of a miracle? Things which wouldn't have happened under normal circumstances, but do. Even if God didn't have His hand in it, that doesn't prove that it's the yeshivas and seminaries who made the person do that. We're individuals. We have to take responsibility for our actions and not blame it on anyone else.Jessicahttp://jabberwocky-jessica.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-37403250671825702672009-05-14T10:33:00.000-04:002009-05-14T10:33:00.000-04:00Jessica - it's only ok to say it's up to gd if you...Jessica - it's only ok to say it's up to gd if you are making an effort yourself, but if you are not making an effort, gd is out of the picture.<br /><br />For example should gd help you when you<br /><br />a) are jumping off the plane without a parachute?<br /><br />b) going into a burning building without any plans to leave it?<br /><br />c) you are not making any afford to find a job, not networking, not looking at help wanted ads, not talking to head hunters?<br /><br />Basically if you are staying home and doing nothing, and expect a guy to fall off the sky, chances are you won't get married. Actually if the guy were to fall off the sky, you would reject him because he is sky diving instead of learning...mlevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831542484906424230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-48329513483604380022009-05-14T10:11:00.000-04:002009-05-14T10:11:00.000-04:00That's free choice to do right or wrong. This isn'...That's free choice to do right or wrong. This isn't a right or wrong decision. It's not up to us, it's up to God.Jessicahttp://jabberwocky-jessica.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-67971686975745511252009-05-13T16:06:00.000-04:002009-05-13T16:06:00.000-04:00jessica- gd helps those who help themselves.
if t...jessica- gd helps those who help themselves.<br /><br />if they sit around and reject potential shidduchim for stupid reasons Gd isn't going to strike them with lightening, make them unconscience and make em wake up in bed together with a magically signed ketuba on the wall.<br /><br />I'm sorry, but there is a certain amount of space Gd gives us. afterall, traditioan Jewish philosophy does tend to agree with free-choicefrumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-56620587623138958642009-05-13T11:10:00.000-04:002009-05-13T11:10:00.000-04:00If these people were meant to be married right now...If these people were meant to be married right now, they would be. No point in putting any blame on anyone for a made up crisis. You give the yeshivas and seminaries too much credit... it's in God's hands, no theirs.Jessicahttp://jabberwocky-jessica.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-63762783299857014262009-05-13T10:54:00.000-04:002009-05-13T10:54:00.000-04:00I totally agree.I totally agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-49886555614588070632009-05-13T09:59:00.000-04:002009-05-13T09:59:00.000-04:00It's a problem the frum world has manufactured for...It's a problem the frum world has manufactured for itself, in part, by expecting people to marry so young. There are not that many unmarried frum people in their 40's; being unmarried at, say 25, should not be considered a "crisis." This is only exacerbated by the focus on marriage as the be-all and end-all, especially for women, who start getting the whole "future wife and mother" shpiel from at least 13 years of age.Dinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12731938906343025989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-84156806035299031022009-05-13T08:53:00.000-04:002009-05-13T08:53:00.000-04:00>I don't think the overall problem with shi...>I don't think the overall problem with shidduchim is anything other than stupid indoctrination by the yeshiva/seminaries. Had these dumb schools not messed with people's heads,<br /><br />Couldn't have said it better myself:).OTDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284266882043971891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-43859751421375605862009-05-13T02:00:00.000-04:002009-05-13T02:00:00.000-04:00I can understand why the girl wouldn't want someon...I can understand why the girl wouldn't want someone who was going to be a pulpit rabbi. The community role of a rebbetzin can be very demanding, and everyone in the community knows who you are. <br /><br />But what I don't understand is the indoctrination that would make her want someone who only learned. What do you think is the reason for that?<br /><br />Ichabod ChrainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com