tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post2727384676073909221..comments2023-10-15T10:39:20.908-04:00Comments on One Frum Skeptic: Cell phones and the familyfrumskeptichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-13128371753900609502008-10-26T22:40:00.000-04:002008-10-26T22:40:00.000-04:00Moshe: I think I tried that once but I couldn't fi...Moshe: I think I tried that once but I couldn't figure it out.Jewish Side of Babysitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792110478994916775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-69767796959649370892008-10-26T22:27:00.000-04:002008-10-26T22:27:00.000-04:00Aircrack, makes most closed networks, open, just t...Aircrack, makes most closed networks, open, just takes time.Ookamikunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145237927656807738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-16654993285713686822008-10-26T22:25:00.000-04:002008-10-26T22:25:00.000-04:00perhaps, maybe I'll just have to ask people who I ...perhaps, maybe I'll just have to ask people who I see using their laptops how they got on. <BR/><BR/>and Thanx!Jewish Side of Babysitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792110478994916775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-65786738326063415192008-10-26T22:19:00.000-04:002008-10-26T22:19:00.000-04:00there shoud be an option to sign in using backdoor...there shoud be an option to sign in using backdoor. For that all u need is your SS# and bday.<BR/><BR/>I love my phone. but if a pocket PC works for u, than yay! :-)frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-72124276203743994852008-10-26T22:14:00.000-04:002008-10-26T22:14:00.000-04:00I'd rather do that stuff from my computer. But I d...I'd rather do that stuff from my computer. But I did buy a pocket PC which has wireless, I didn't get a chance to really check it out. <BR/><BR/>FrumSkeptic: btw, do you know how to connect to the BC network? it asks for a username, a password and a domain, do you know what your supposed to put in? <BR/><BR/>but if my thing works then it's so much better than using a phone, cause it's portable, but at the same time you don't have to pay 15 a month for a data plan for internet, but then again, it doesn't come with internet, only connections you can find, but then again there's always connections everywhere. i was going to try it out when I went babysitting last motzie shabbos, but the kid didn't go to sleep so I didn't get a chance.Jewish Side of Babysitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792110478994916775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-8078371379558995382008-10-26T22:08:00.000-04:002008-10-26T22:08:00.000-04:00Yeah, take out the phone aspect and that's how I k...Yeah, take out the phone aspect and that's how I keep in touch too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-15354231028037390422008-10-26T21:37:00.000-04:002008-10-26T21:37:00.000-04:00Jessica- the cell phone is my life. Unfortunately....Jessica- the cell phone is my life. Unfortunately. But thats only becaue my cell phone has email and facebook. The two factors of my kit with EVERYONE.<BR/><BR/>If a friend calls me up and asks me abotu someon or s/t, it wouldnt take longer than 15 minuts for me to figure out who to email/facebook quicker to get an answer or a plan or w/e. Plus, When my freinds get engaged or have babies, its always up to me to spread the news. Without my phone, email, facebook, i wouldn't agree to spread the news. Id ask to be left alone.frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-70957346833380917882008-10-26T21:33:00.000-04:002008-10-26T21:33:00.000-04:00I know I'm going to sound like an old-fogey, but I...I know I'm going to sound like an old-fogey, but I swear I'm actually 23... I remember the days before cell phones. For me, cell phones haven't made keeping in contact any easier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-3246123907193137332008-10-26T21:09:00.000-04:002008-10-26T21:09:00.000-04:00FrumSkeptic: right, ok. So then cell phones aren't...FrumSkeptic: right, ok. <BR/><BR/>So then cell phones aren't a necessity to get families to keep in touch. But they are more like an extra that helps it become more convenient.Jewish Side of Babysitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792110478994916775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-89315394719181013882008-10-26T20:42:00.000-04:002008-10-26T20:42:00.000-04:00the article didn't say they wouldn't keep in touch...the article didn't say they wouldn't keep in touch, just that the phones HELP them in keeping in touch.<BR/><BR/>But generally, my point wasn't that the average American family is better than the frum family, just pointing out that they're probably on the same level. Just like there are plenty of nrmal american families there are plenty of normal Jewish families, just like there are plenty of morons in both groups.frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-76678757385818835102008-10-26T16:48:00.000-04:002008-10-26T16:48:00.000-04:00FrumSkeptic: Perhaps your right about that. But in...FrumSkeptic: Perhaps your right about that. But in the article itself it was saying the opposite, that without the phones they wouldn't keep in touch.Jewish Side of Babysitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792110478994916775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-59277696409623475052008-10-26T16:31:00.000-04:002008-10-26T16:31:00.000-04:00babysitter- I wouldn't be to quick to assume that ...babysitter- I wouldn't be to quick to assume that frum ppl touch base more than the average american family. Many of my PS friends had family dinner each night and were nit even allowed to answer the phone if it rang. <BR/>pre frum days my mom used to get annoyed that my fathers karate class twice a week was during dinner time. she made him quit the class afterfrumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-73761082026562742442008-10-26T15:37:00.000-04:002008-10-26T15:37:00.000-04:00I think I've read about this once. I was actually ...I think I've read about this once. I was actually reading today about how now even within a house families are using cell's to call each other and text each other instead of taking the exercise of going to the family member to tell them something. <BR/><BR/>That does sound ridiculous. But you know what, because of Shabbos and Yom tov we get to touch base with our families more often than the other American's. So that may cause a difference in the polling if it was taken in a frum community. <BR/><BR/>Jessica: very funny and great point. But actually your onto something. There is the concept of Shana Rishona for that reason, a spouse can't get too involved with something else that leaves the other spouse out. <BR/><BR/>As far as I'm concerned a husband is not allowed to have his head in the gemara a whole day and ignore his wife. Everything is good so long as it doesn't become an obsession. Exercise is good, but if it becomes their life and makes them ignore their spouse then no it's not good and has to be limited.Jewish Side of Babysitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792110478994916775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-28543107958366146472008-10-26T04:11:00.000-04:002008-10-26T04:11:00.000-04:00Jessica- you've made wonderful points. now, go te...Jessica- you've made wonderful points. now, go tell the Rebbeim and lets bet on how long it takes for them to ban learning alot during marraige or excercing. ;)frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-64901632570032306782008-10-25T23:17:00.000-04:002008-10-25T23:17:00.000-04:00DYS:"Or maybe try Rabbi Sokol at the Yavneh Minyan...DYS:<BR/><BR/>"Or maybe try Rabbi Sokol at the Yavneh Minyan."<BR/><BR/>i leined a few times at the yavne minyan over the summer and have started davening there occasionally. r. sokol is great. (this summer was the first time in a few years that i didn't fall asleep or tune out during a derasha)Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-27809495957166408282008-10-25T22:26:00.000-04:002008-10-25T22:26:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-12808061115404734192008-10-24T15:15:00.000-04:002008-10-24T15:15:00.000-04:00Why stop at modern technology? If a husband learns...Why stop at modern technology? If a husband learns all day his wife will be jealous of his gemarah. If a woman exercises everyday her husband will be jealous of her running shoes. There, now we can blame gemarahs and running shoes for divorce too... wonderful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-67750417053428715822008-10-23T15:05:00.000-04:002008-10-23T15:05:00.000-04:00Here in Israel, "kosher" cell phones are marketed ...Here in Israel, "kosher" cell phones are marketed to the chareidi public. So what make a cell phone kosher you ask? They don't allow the phones to have text messaging, games, internet/e-mail on them.<BR/><BR/>At least in this manner the rabbis are recognizing that cell phones themselves are not a problem, but rather they take issue with certain functions. while i may not agree with it, at least they are dealing with it is a sensible manner.<BR/><BR/>Rich<BR/>http://frustratedorthojew.blogspot.com/Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909933722622649565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-27149246607998534452008-10-23T14:49:00.000-04:002008-10-23T14:49:00.000-04:00DYSRabbi Sokol Is good. I heard one speech from on...DYS<BR/><BR/>Rabbi Sokol Is good. I heard one speech from one rabbi and heard the same thing from rabbi Sokol. R'sokol was much more inspiring.Mikeinmidwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076346601047947913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-61201305468229379332008-10-23T12:09:00.000-04:002008-10-23T12:09:00.000-04:00Anything can lead to assimilation. The point is to...Anything can lead to assimilation. The point is to have enough emunah so it does not, not to hide away in a closet so nothing will influence you.David Staumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092344925121412070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-59572053464814826402008-10-23T10:31:00.000-04:002008-10-23T10:31:00.000-04:00"Having goyish friends is automatically going to l..."Having goyish friends is automatically going to lead to assimilation" <BR/><BR/>When does it not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-6936556322384650712008-10-22T21:15:00.000-04:002008-10-22T21:15:00.000-04:00if i ever say "I was at a shuir and I heard..."and...if i ever say "I was at a shuir and I heard..."<BR/><BR/>and it's something like this post the Rabbi either went of topic or a friend of mine begged me to show up, because it was her first time going, and she didn't know if she'd know anyone (happens like once, maybe twice a year)frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-71152489343522939462008-10-22T21:13:00.000-04:002008-10-22T21:13:00.000-04:00I went to this particular shuir because it was on ...I went to this particular shuir because it was on hilchos shabbos and yom tov, which is practical. <BR/><BR/>I hardly ever attend hashkafa type shuirim. They bother me because the themes are usually about some sort of modern invention and how its a negative with OJ; OR its about how having goyish friends is automatically going to lead to assimiliation.frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-7595896900856252622008-10-22T19:26:00.000-04:002008-10-22T19:26:00.000-04:00So why do you keep going to these shiurim? Just fo...So why do you keep going to these shiurim? Just for post fodder?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-65608850681952260602008-10-22T06:01:00.000-04:002008-10-22T06:01:00.000-04:00kosher feetkosher feetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com