tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post7597148240812662898..comments2023-10-15T10:39:20.908-04:00Comments on One Frum Skeptic: The Privilege to Votefrumskeptichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-70425833409191471192009-05-18T08:37:00.000-04:002009-05-18T08:37:00.000-04:00Nice post. I'm a dual-citizen, meaning that I'm bo...Nice post. I'm a dual-citizen, meaning that I'm both Canadian and American. I lived in Canada for most of my life, so I'm not going to claim that I know all of the questions you asked, but I could answer a fair share of them I think. Personally, I have no clue if it's appropriate to rescind a citizen's right to vote because they aren't current on public affairs. It's an interesting question. But I did notice that you made a 'pleasant' comment about someone who commented anonymously. I wrote a blog post about anonymous commenters a few weeks ago. Check it out lol. <br /><br />http://shocked-avi.blogspot.com/2009/04/cowardice-of-anonymity.html%Shocked%https://www.blogger.com/profile/08017279590797608442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-15897624326330722032009-05-14T08:17:00.000-04:002009-05-14T08:17:00.000-04:00aztecqueen- I'd be able to answer those, but I do...aztecqueen- I'd be able to answer those, but I don't remember the bill of rights in order. and I cannot remember at all what the elastic clause is. sounds familiar.<br /><br />here's my point:<br />1- I'd still pass. so I'd still be able to vote.<br />2- this post wasn't about who stayed up in history class, its about who knows what's going on in the world. People who have no idea who or what their candidate stands for, should *not* be voting. if they have no idea how the governing body of the country functions, or have any idea how much power these people potentially have, they should *not* be voting.<br /><br />its like you have all thse frum people screaming to get an anti-abortion candidate. please. how many of these frummies are aware of the unlikelihood that anything major will change? what's the nost a conservative will do- give the rights back to state governments to decide? <br /><br />and about illiteracy, do tell how someone who can't read a ballot would be able to properly vote, whether it is due to illiteracy or the inability to speak english?frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-26054565391452030622009-05-13T23:12:00.000-04:002009-05-13T23:12:00.000-04:00Ah, the good old days of the voting test! Here's ...Ah, the good old days of the voting test! Here's another question:<br />True or False: Voting tests are legal.<br />True or false: Voting tests have been used to deny undesirables the right to vote.<br />Question 1: False. Per the 24th Amendment, voting tests and poll taxes are illegal.<br />Question 2: True. Until the passage of the 24th Amendment in the 1960s, literacy tests were a means used to bar blacks in the South from voting.<br />Here are a few more questions for your little test:<br />1. Name all ten amendments to the Constitution that make up the Bill of Rights.<br />2. Name five departments in the President's Cabinet<br />3. What are the powers delegated to each of the three branches of government?<br />4. What is the "elastic clause?"<br />"Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security."--Benjamin FranklinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-44932621193088540502009-05-06T22:03:00.000-04:002009-05-06T22:03:00.000-04:00I can think of many other adjectives to describe t...I can think of many other adjectives to describe the stimulus bill, but why use so many words, when just one word fits so well?frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-61345641696093742742009-05-06T22:01:00.000-04:002009-05-06T22:01:00.000-04:00Anonymous - well written!
FS - you cannot think of...Anonymous - well written!<br />FS - you cannot think of a better adjective than the word "retarded" to describe the stimulus bill, yet you call others stupid. Interesting.sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08754783149359679241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-1636064524364691242009-05-06T00:18:00.000-04:002009-05-06T00:18:00.000-04:00MOshe-
"Why do you need to know who the speaker ...MOshe- <br /><br />"Why do you need to know who the speaker of the house is to know that he/she follows the VP?"<br /><br />Then why know who the VP is by name? This is the person 3rd in line for power. The bronze medalist... they're kinda a big deal. Plus, they actually (usually) do stuff... for example, Nancy Pelosi controls Obama. She wrote the retarded stimulus bill that no one read yet passed, with 9000 earmarks in it. She's kinda important...<br /><br />"I know who goes after whom, the branches, the meaning of the flag, but names of everyone other than pres and vp, whatever. "<br /><br />That should definitly be added to the questions "What are the three branches of government?"<br /><br />"As for local, no reason to know district rep."<br /><br />He's our representative in congress.. you know... he is our electoral vote... umm... yea... he's not exactly "local"<br /><br />"And considering all the recent scandals in NY, knowing your senators, governors, etc. is way too much work."<br /><br />Ummm... Blind dude (Patterson) followed the cheater Spitzer. Schumer has been US senator for gd knows how long, and is currently one of the idiot's trying to find a way to silence talk-radio by reinstating the fairness doctrine under another name... <br /><br />Guillibrand I can understand not knowing, she just got power into power (she was a congresswoman for district 20, which is now run by Scott Murphey, who won the special election that was given to fill her seat).<br /><br />"Now let me ask you a for citizenship question and see if you can answer w/out looking it up. Name the 13 colonies."<br /><br />Oh yea...thats a good questiont too, Tho I think its not an important one, its more important to actually understand WHY the colonists united against the british tyrannical bastards...<br />but here goes (not in order, I'm not that good)<br /><br />1- Delaware<br />2- Virginia<br />3- Pennsylvania<br />4- NJ<br />5- NY<br />6- Connecticut<br />7- Massachussettes<br />8- Rhode Island<br />9- Maryland<br />10- New Hampshire<br />11- Georgia<br />12- South Carolina<br />13- North Carolina<br /><br />I think I'm right...lol... I dunno.frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-22751521022533194802009-05-05T19:09:00.000-04:002009-05-05T19:09:00.000-04:00Why do you need to know who the speaker of the hou...Why do you need to know who the speaker of the house is to know that he/she follows the VP?<br /><br />I know who goes after whom, the branches, the meaning of the flag, but names of everyone other than pres and vp, whatever. As for local, no reason to know district rep. And considering all the recent scandals in NY, knowing your senators, governors, etc. is way too much work.<br /><br />Now let me ask you a for citizenship question and see if you can answer w/out looking it up. Name the 13 colonies.Ookamikunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145237927656807738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-83281169070852949162009-05-05T18:56:00.000-04:002009-05-05T18:56:00.000-04:00moshe- I don't agree with the quote. I don't think...moshe- I don't agree with the quote. I don't think you actually have to serve in the army to understand who the country needs to be protected from. and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that that a strong defense deters the enemy (plus not everyone is capable of serving in the army)... <br /><br />My spelling could be wrong but...:<br /><br />5- Chuck Schumer and Kirsten GIllibrand<br />6-Anthony Weiner<br />7- Harry Reid, Democrat<br />8- Nancy Pelosi, Democrat<br /><br />IN order to know #3 you should know #8... you need to know #3 for sure to become a citizen...<br /><br />I find it sad that you don't know this. Unlike the idiotic implications of anonymous's rant, it doesn't take an elitist to open a newspaper or visit a news website and learn who is in power in their country.frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-41140362914009940002009-05-05T17:59:00.000-04:002009-05-05T17:59:00.000-04:00I still prefer Robert Heinlein's criteria for voti...I still prefer Robert Heinlein's criteria for voting. "If you want to vote, serve in the army so that you know who and what you're protecting. You don't serve, you don't vote"<br /><br />I'd fail this too. Don't know 5-8.<br /><br />6 and 7 are not required to become a citizen.Ookamikunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145237927656807738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-46743546155711663162009-05-05T01:46:00.000-04:002009-05-05T01:46:00.000-04:00mlevin- don't bother responding to those who lack ...mlevin- don't bother responding to those who lack the balls to sign some sort of name to their statement.<br /><br />afterall, he's probably just pissed off he can't answer some of the basic questions concerning those who are currently in-power in this country.frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-64497855785524841692009-05-05T01:17:00.000-04:002009-05-05T01:17:00.000-04:00Anonymous - why such a violent reaction. FS is not...Anonymous - why such a violent reaction. FS is not talking about requiring people to know complex issues. She wants people who vote to simply be able to answer simple questions such as who is the current vice president of the United States. <br /><br />Every vote determines the future of this country. Presidents and Senators and Congressmen all make decisions which affect us all. <br /><br />And here we have people who are so ignorant that they don't even know who is the vice president making these decisions. These people obviously know nothing. Yet they are voting... End result we end up electing someone into the office like Obama, Shumer, Weiner, Polosi and etc. Why? Because they are better looking than their opponent?mlevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831542484906424230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-8737520930110651122009-05-05T00:50:00.000-04:002009-05-05T00:50:00.000-04:00ooh, this is fun! yeah, here's one--a great piece...ooh, this is fun! yeah, here's one--a great piece of civic knowledge any American should know before they vote:<br /><br />the constitution, as interpreted over and over by the supreme court, considers voting to be:<br /><br />a) something only for the elite, who can prove they "deserve" to vote<br />b) an undeniable right fundamental to democracy, tempered where it can go wrong by the electoral college<br />c) only for English speakers<br /><br />if you said a) or c)--congratulations! you are a bigot! this means you are not only ignorant of America's civic ethos, but also unpleasant to be around!<br /><br />this is fun. how 'bout:<br /><br />people who call everyone else stupid:<br />a) are probably right, and smarter than everyone else<br />b) should probably start reevaluating their own comments, to put it mildly and subtly <br />c)will especially call you stupid if you disagree with them, and will never grow because of this.<br /><br />the fun thing about this one is that both b) and c) can be true!<br /><br />true or false:<br />complex political issues can be resolved by putting them into dumb dichotomies in which one tries to frame the opposition so it sounds idiotic. <br /><br />true or false: <br />you can use these true or false questions to prove anything you want, because if a fact is true, it means the conclusions or responses I believe in are also trueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-60684402155393191152009-05-04T23:50:00.000-04:002009-05-04T23:50:00.000-04:00oh...and I think I knew who the state Senators wer...oh...and I think I knew who the state Senators were before I ever even cared to think about who would be Pres if both the Pres and VP die.<br /><br />And I don't complainfrumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-51794623763884149702009-05-04T23:47:00.000-04:002009-05-04T23:47:00.000-04:00child ish- you think people would know 3 of the ba...child ish- you think people would know 3 of the basic? Most people I asked didn't.<br /><br />Anyway, these are basic questions that are required to become a citizen. It's actually rather pathetic that people don't know this stuff.frumskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990363895869876238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-83350070835707519722009-05-04T23:00:00.000-04:002009-05-04T23:00:00.000-04:00I don't think I would get to vote based on your cr...I don't think I would get to vote based on your criteria. Personally I think it is a slippery slope. Who decides what the body of knowledge is that everyone has to have. Maybe we should add some more questions. Maybe less. your basic questions 5-8 are something that most people don't know unless they really care about something in particular and they want to complain. And seriously why should I have to know some stupid current events. This is America, Gosh Darn it. Though I do agree with you on the English thing, if you can't speak the language, why should we accommodate you?Originally From Brooklynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05927411127491577903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683171330083869803.post-83774401704871144802009-05-04T22:59:00.000-04:002009-05-04T22:59:00.000-04:00Number 3 on the true or false was a tough one,I'm ...Number 3 on the true or false was a tough one,I'm probably listening to too much liberal radio.Mikeinmidwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076346601047947913noreply@blogger.com