Yeshivish thinking

2 FRUM men approach a Yeshivish guy.
The first one tells him "1+1=2"
The second tells him "1+1=3"

Q. which one does the yeshivish guy listen too?
A. The blackhatter, because secular education is bad, therefore one must have emunah that his elders know the truth.

Unbelievable

Many people are manipulative and conniving. The reason that many of these people get away with their sleazy plans, isn't because they are cleverly disguised (they usually aren't), but because "they are frum" or "yeshivish" AND they fall under the category of a "black hatter."

Here is an example explaining what it is I'm trying to say:

Lets take Menachem, he is a young man who has just received Smicha. He is married, has a few kids and he wears a black-hat on shabbos. Menachem thinks blue-jeans are the root cause of all evil, and he NEVER, EVER wears a shirt that isn't white. So Menachem decides he wants to get involved in Kiruv, and due to the kindness of an acquaintance, he is able to find a very friendly shul to host him. After a few months, the shul members agree in helping him with funding for a few of the programs he proposed.

After a couple of years, it becomes clear that he has failed in fulfilling the programs' objectives (no one became frum, certain people actually refused to join because of their dislike towards Menachem) Many of the shul members began to notice. However, because it was a Modern Orthodox shul and the Rav of the shul was way "frummer" than the members, nothing got done to solve the problem. To the dismay of these members, the Rav gave Menachem yet ANOTHER "program". And this program was his own minyan.

It wasn't the shul members that gave Menachem his own minyan, but the Rav of the shul and the Presidium (who were apparently persuaded into it). No shul meeting was granted to determine the faith of the minyan, just the Rav's "ok".

All the shul members began to flip out-- after all, the entire purpose of a kiruv program is to welcome people into the frum community, not separate them from it. However, instead of listening to the members complaints, the Rav DEFENDED the Menachem (the moron) and persuaded them it was in their best interest to allow the second minyan.

Why was Menachem defended? Not because the Rav is dumb (because he isn't), but because the Rav, like all the Rabbeim has an agenda - and his agenda is to make the entire frum world "black-hatter" and eventually "yeshivish." And he feels the only way to make the members black-hatter is to give in to all the demands of the other black hatters in the shul.

This type of stuff makes me sick!

Rainbow, Loshon Hara?

For years in parsha class, during the week of parshas Noach, the teacher would tell my class that rainbows were a promise. They were a promise that G-d would never flood the world again. Each and every class would continue with the same discussion about how one isn't supposed to show a rainbow to anyone else. S/he must only say a bracha. The reason for this, is because the rainbow is a sign that the person, who is seeing it, is doing something wrong and he must do tshuva.
However, there is apparently a new story...
and that is, that if one shows someone else a rainbow, that is loshon hara on the world. Apparently, one wouldnt know the world is bad if NOT FOR THE RAINBOW!
I also cannot figure out how you can speak loshon hara on the world. From what I learned in HS, Loshon Hara is exclusive to Jews.
I dont know. WHATEVER. lol.

Try Justifying This

"On Oct. 21, five ultra-Orthodox Jews assaulted a woman and an Israeli soldier on a bus bound for Beit Shemesh. The men demanded that the woman sit in the back of the bus; when she refused and asked the soldier to sit next to her, they beat them both. When the police came, dozens of ultra-Orthodox men attacked them while the assailants escaped."

or this which was later on in the article...

"But the tensions between the two ultra-Orthodox communities are real. Ilan Shmueli, 35, runs “American Pizza” in Beit Shemesh A. He opened in the stricter B in August 2005, based on his work in a Deal, N.J., pizzeria.
After six months, he said, “the problems started — they began to throw things at us: tomatoes from the market, hot oil, gasoline.” Some ultra-Orthodox from B were customers, but “the Hasidim, who were a bit nuts,” started demonstrations, which became violent. His sin was to sit men and women in the same restaurant. “I went to their rabbi and I said, ‘Look, it’s like the war of Gog and Magog,’” Mr. Shmueli said. “And he said, ‘You might end up dead.’”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/world/middleeast/02orthodox.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


Justify this. for real. i dare you. try it.
firstly i would like to know how they beat the woman. doesn't that go against the laws of shomer negiah? but i dunno, lets judge them favorably and assume they beat her with a stick...
secondly...if you read the entire article they talk about how the families are poor and they mostly live on charity. Guess whose giving them the charity? THE FRIKKIN PEOPLE THEY BEAT UP! thats right. Who works? the non-charedi. the charadi workers are the ones that are limited in funds, b/c its most likely money that was already in the family. the money already in the family may and probably will run out. so who will support their children when they get married and the family money runs out? once again..the NON charadi. THe ones that actually WORK and open the same type of pizza places with - G-D FORBID- MIXED seating!!!. THEY PROVIDE the CHARITY, CUZ THEY"RE THE ONES WORKING!
I just love when people are stupid like this. its always entertaining and makes me gain a huge respect for frum ppl...

but please do try and justify this.



~Anita