When my sister was in the 12th grade, her school really wanted her to apply for seminary. My sister really didn’t want to go to seminary so the school called my mother in an attempt to convince her that seminary was important.
I understand the frummy community wants to keep you in the system for that one extra year … that extra year is what turns many from just “programmed” to full on FRUMMY psycho. So while I think it’s none of the schools business, I understand their need to help the Rabbi’s control the population.
Any way… One would think that if you’re making a case to separate a child from their parent there should atleast be a DECENT argument involved… but of course, if you deal with frummies you get the following:
“You know Mrs. your child was in a sheltered Jewish environment, do you really think it’s a good idea to stick her straight into college? Its such a culture clash. Seminary is a great transition year!”
Ummm… ARE THESE PEOPLE HIGH? What would you think is easier? Transitioning from a year of public NYC transportation into a college environment, or switching straight from a year in Israel WHERE JUST ABOUT EVERYONE IS JEWISH AND YOUR ASSOCIATIONS IS MOSTLY WITH FRUM JEWS AS WELL?
This is why the Jew educational system is failing. You have idiots running the system
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wow. Its been such a long time since you posted.
btw. I'm a secular jew (used to be orthodox) but I really enojoy reading your blog.
danny-
Yes, its been a while. I'm trying to get back into things... hopefully it'll happen :)
"I really enojoy reading your blog."
Thank you :)
Ah, but you see, if she goes to seminary, it would be an even bigger culture clash and she may decide not to go to the evil college and be a good frummy housewife instead.
Moshe- they don't want girls as housewives anymore, they want them at crappy Morah positions so that their husbands can "learn". if she doesn't have a job, how does he learn? (never mind the fact that this job is crappy)
Isn't that her parent's job?
Moshe- lol. yes, in essence. but frum people make no sense.
Glad you're back. Since you hadn't posted for months I thought you'd given up on the blog.
IC- I kept on pushing off putting up a post about how I didn't give up, just that I'm a bit busy... then finally it became to late, and i figured I may as well just one day post something!
The school's point was probably meant to go something along the lines of: "With all of our extracurricular activities* she'll learn a lot of great skills that will help her excel in whatever her long-term goals are."
*Yes, there are plenty. 3 of my sisters went to 3 different seminaries in Israel, and every time I spoke to them they were busy with extracurricular stuff.
And both you and Moshe are incorrect about what these schools want from their students. I don't know what kind of background you come from (i.e. the religiosity of the school that your sister went to), but most schools that I know of out there want their girls to go to college. Their intention is that the girls support their wives learning, but they don't expect/want all of their students to become "Morah's."
And by college you mean Stern or Touro where they may only take something leading to becoming a teacher, ot or speech?
Moshe, Please excuse my ignorance but as somone who has been a Conservative Jew since birth, I've always wondered, if the husband is learning full time and his wife has a "crappy" low paying job, how do they possibly afford to support their children when the time comes? Especially given the number of children the average UO have.
By having all of the middle class parents getting screwed paying for their kids. Also, all of the government assistance programs.
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