Once again the comments on Frum Punks post have inspired a post of my own. On his post tooyoungtoteach declared that the reason frummies are anti-BT is because of the possibility that they are "ben-niddah"
Well, I think that reason is complete crap. Soley because then they wouldn't reject students from schools. Its not like the schools are mix gendered and may accidently fall in love with the person with the wrong birth status...
Anyway, I think the real reason is because BT are just more interesting. Who wants to sit around and listen to FFB's talk only about crazy crises when BT have awesome ORIGINAL stories?
Take my family for example. They're completely wacko.
1- My moms best friend (who is a Russian Jew) is married to a muslim guy and lives in Bangladesh. Before she moved there she was never concerned about her childrens' Jewish education, but now, that she's there, she informs them with as much as possible without risk that they'd get caught as Jews.
Wack, no?
2- My fathers cousin's wife died a month ago. We just found out. And we only found out because my grandma decided to tell us even though she promised not to.
The woman died and her husband didn't want anyone to know. To the extent that I shouldn't know that now (and its a month later!). When I heard I was told "JUST DONT TELL ANYONE"
Who am I going to tell that cares? Plus, I asked mom "Its not like you can ayin hara the dead, wth?"
She started cracking up.
3- Over presidents day weekend my family went to Boston to visit some of our family. One of our relatives was married about 1.5 years ago. So my mom asked his aunt "Oh, is Anna pregnant yet?" (Even though they not frum, the general culture of Jewish Russians is to have a baby right away then wait a few years for the second). The lady said "nea, why would she be pregnant, he just went back to school"
A week after we returned home, my grandmother calls my dad and SCREAMS at him "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME ANNA WAS PREGNANT?"
Dad- What, she's pregnant?
Grandma- Yea, she just gave birth last night.
Dad- WHAT?!?! We asked Fira straight out!!! She didn't tell us!
Grandma- Liar!! (called back a few hours later, spoke to mom and she confirmed same story so grandma cooled off a bit)
Anyway, a few hours later my grandma was defending them saying "Thats right, don't want Ayin Hara" My mom was like "AYIN HARA ON THE NINTH MONTH? EVEN FRUMMIES DON'T DO THAT!!"
4-Earlier today my mom found out that her father and brother are involved in a new religion the "church of reincarnation" (I couldn't find it, so it probably has a different name, but the points the same). My mom was cracking up. What do these loonies do all day? Look for freaky religions to try? May as well be frum. They get the wackiness and still get to remain in the path of their ancestors.
Oy...my family is wack. Yet we're a very interesting bunch. We can tell stories for hours. What stories can frummies tell, the ones about gedolim?!
Frummies are lame-o. They don't know what life outside the "shtetl" of Brooklyn is like, so they discriminate against those that do. Then they come up with man-made terms like "ben-nidda' or "pagum" as excuses as to why they don't like the people who make them look dull.
:-)
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Did someone just say 'ethnocentric'?
Very funny. Can't argue with the fun stories and idiosyncrasies.
Jessica: LOL, It was for some comic relief. :-)
Yeah, but I couldn't resist using a "big word". lol.
I hope they told the doctor she's pregnant. ;-)
Nice post...
Want one more story?
Last Shabbes, i went to the wedding of my catholic half-sister, and all of my father's harem was there: My mother (whom he is still married to), my half-sister's mother, of course, because she was mother of the bride and my smaller half-brother's mother...
It was like a muslim with three wifes, (but unfortunatly, the present "wife" had to stay home) just that it was set in a catholic milieu...
re: #2: a somewhat similar thing happened with my very frum cousin. She had cancer for two years apparently, and they didn't tell anyone what kind of cancer it was, or that she had it. They didn't tell anyone she was sick at all until a week or two before she died. Then they said she had cancer, but no one knows what kind- not even her own mother! I tried to get that info when I was doing a family history of cancer thing for cancer genetic testing, and no one in my entire extended family had any idea (except her husband I presume, but he isn't really hanging out with my family anymore now that his wife is dead)
my frum cousin also didn't tell anyone she was pregnant (even though many people asked cause she looked pregnant) until she was about 8 months along.
This is the stuff of daytime soaps :)
No wonder why they dont like mixing with BT's its because they dont want have to deal with crazy in laws.
Mike- read the Yated Readers write one shabbos, then tell me which side will have the crazy in-laws.
lol :-)
Sorry, I am a Jewish Press reader dont read the yated but I'll look it up.
FrumSkeptic: "Anyway, I think the real reason is because BT are just more interesting. Who wants to sit around and listen to FFB's talk only about crazy crises when BT have awesome ORIGINAL stories?"
Your putting yourself in a BT status, your saying BT's are different. If your saying this then it makes sense that people should choose not to go out with a BT. Your making a border yourself by saying their more interesting.
But you know what, its an individual basis, it has nothing to do with BT or FFB. If you didn't know the status of a person beforehand, you wouldn't be able to tell if they are BT or FFB. Like that mother who had picked that girl out of the yearbook, it was obviously something that wasn't obvious.
"Anyway, a few hours later my grandma was defending them saying "Thats right, don't want Ayin Hara" My mom was like "AYIN HARA ON THE NINTH MONTH? EVEN FRUMMIES DON'T DO THAT!!""
That's hysterical!
"What stories can frummies tell,"
Plenty of stories, my grandmother is great at telling stories, none about gedollim. No matter if Your BT or not, everyone has a family, and with a family comes family stories. They just might be about different things, but still entertaining.
My mothers cousin was by sheva brachos with my family, and someone asked him if he can get her a toothpick, they thought he was a waiter, then again someone asked him for something else, it was hysterical, so then my mother joked along and teased him, asking him to get her something
"Frummies are lame-o. They don't know what life outside the "shtetl" of Brooklyn is like, so they discriminate against those that do."
not true! either people that I thought were Frummies aren't, or they just plain aren't lame.
btw, its not frummie or BT, those aren't the only choices. Just because a person isn't a BT doesn't mean their a frummie. Even if they are frum, there are different levels among those.
Babysitter- This post wasnt really meant to be taken literally. Was more of a comic relief type of thing, kinda like "BACK AT YA WEENIES"
lol.
2/3 of my best friends are FFB. And they've got wacky families. probably in comparison to my own. lol
FrumSkeptic: lol ok, I'm not good at being able to tell when somethings a joke or not.
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